The (almost) definitive guide to anti-Labour online comments

NOT my headline, but the name of a very entertaining post over at LabourHome. An excellent but probably not exhaustive guide to the weird and unjustifiably smug phrases used (mostly) by cyber-Tories.

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13 responses to “The (almost) definitive guide to anti-Labour online comments

  1. As it happens Tom there appears to be some kind of collective consiousness or something going on. I wrote that (a bit drunk) last night only to find today that there are others written around the same time.

    The first I’ve seen today is on Liberal Conspiracy (and it pre-dates my effort by a few hours too):
    http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/10/a-z-of-right-wing-online-commenting/

    The second is over at the nasty side of the blogosphere: http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2008/08/a-z-of-leftie-commenting.html

    H/T to Labour Outlook this evening for both:
    http://www.labouroutlook.com/2008/08/evening-roundup-11th-august-2008/

    I can put my hand on my heart and swear that I didn’t know of either of these before I wrote my (hopefully humorous) article.

    Weird eh?

  2. Johnny Norfolk

    Of course labour never do this do they. I think the problem you have is that for the first time the right of centre (or silent majority) is being heard. It has no representation on the BBC so the internet has given us the ability to speak, and instead of being on the reciving end of left wing jibes we are now able to answer back.

    Having not being used to it you are now trying to rubbish it. how Labour would like to stop it as the truth is not easy for you.

    Only 2 more years max.

  3. richard

    Weird? Probably.

    Smug? Probably.

    Unjustifiable? The last 4 months of poll ratings, London Mayoral Elections, local election, by elections, etc would suggest otherwise…

  4. If it’s the silent majority Johnny, why is it that it’s just a few vocal people like yourself a repeatedly making the same noises? At least you know that we laugh at you and not with you now, eh?

  5. Richard

    Examples of usage (e.g. “Assuming Broon holds out to the last minute to give ZaNuLab the maximum amount for the poll ratings to change we only have 626 days left of NuLab. I bet they’re wishing they never got rid of Bliar…”),

    Etc.

  6. So much for NuLab awareness of Scotland’s sporting heritage – shame on you Tom.

    For those of us of a certain age there will always be only one Broon – the indomitable Gordon Broon frae Troon of Lions fame. Who may well have inspired the curtailed Rugby ambitions of his namesake.

  7. Letters From A Tory

    From LabourHome: “NuLab – The use of ‘NuLab’ is always intended in a derogatory manner. The reading of this term immediately marks the writer as what some might call “a nutter”.”

    Err, I think what they meant to say was that anyone who thinks the New Labour is anything other than a complete failure is “a nutter”.

    http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com

  8. Madasafish

    There is no need for Labour opponents to write derogatory comments on Gordon Brown.
    We can read them daily written by Labour supporters..

    Being rude to your opponents and calling them names is childish..
    Now who was it whose official election literature called the Conservatives “toffs”?

    I recall a proverb about “glass houses and stones ” but under Labour the education system has declined so no-one under 25 knows what a proverb is…:-)

  9. Johnny Norfolk

    Labourmatters.

    You have no idea how this country thinks about your party. Go and mix with ordinary folk and find out what they think.

    They cannot wait to be rid of you and if you dont know why, that is why we want rid of you. Believe me it is not just a few people. It is EVERYONE I meet.

  10. Martin Cullip

    This is classic. Labour discounting everyone that is angry with them as ‘unrepresentative’. I understand how the dodgy stats originate now.

  11. Richard

    The post seems to characterise anyone who doesn’t support the Labour party as being mentally ill…

  12. Frank Davis

    I read the Labourhome piece. I tend to agree with them about using ‘Nulabour’ etc (although it’s so common now that it’s almost hard not to). It’s rather lazy. But what are you supposed to call a party that you’ve come to detest? And I’ve definitely used ‘Bliar’. Although now that he’s gone there’s no longer any need to use a word which actually got to the heart of that man.

    But when they write that: “reader comments is, and there’s no nice way to say this, an unrepresentative mass of bullshit.! I seriously wonder how they know. Or indeed if they know at all. How do they know what is and isn’t representative?

    I suppose that in opinion polls most people will come out as Labour, Tory, or Lib Dem voters, and that tends to make for thinking of the population as made up of stereotype blocks of identical Tory and Labour supporters. But in reality, everyone knows that within every political party there are a variety of different currents and movements, and every party is a coalition of people who in no sense agree about everything. And the same is going to be true of the general population. Ordinary people are going to have as diverse opinions as those found in any political party. So when ordinary people start expressing their opinions in comments, it really shouldn’t be a surprise if they come out with a rather startling range of opinions. Calling them “nutters” or “loonies” involves doing nothing more than seeing that their opinions don’t conform to some sterotype view of what ‘proper’ Tories or Labourites think, and dumping them in the ‘loony’ bin. – which is what this piece actually advises.

    I rather think that the inevitable result of this will be that most opinions will end up being dismissed as “loony”. MPs will complain that 90% of their correspondence is from “nutters”. Perhaps they do already. If so, they’re making a tremendous mistake. People simply don’t fit neatly into stereotypes. They never have. Politicians who ignore the diversity of opinion they encounter will end up losing contact with the voting public. Labour has done this big time. But the Tories and Lib Dems aren’t really very much better.

    The piece almost gets to the heart of the problem, when they write that “a revolution is in the offing.” Well, yes, it is! A whole new way of expressing opinions has emerged on the internet. It really is a revolution. But nobody should be in the least surprised or dismissive of what gets expressed in this new medium, or the rich variety of ways in which it is expressed.

    The old politics made sweeping generalisations, lumping people together into groups like Labour and Tory. But as the real diversity of opinion emerges, these broad categories are likely to get fuzzier and fuzzier. And personality rather the party affiliation will matter more and more, as interest gets focused on individuals more than parties. New and informal coalitions will appear. and dissolve. And, rather than dismissing comments as “unrepresentative”, politicians should be studying closely what is being written.

    Now, where was I? Ah, yes. The smoking ban. That’s what really eats at this particular unrepresentative ex-LibDem cyber-Tory. Have I mentioned it before? I haven’t? Well, let me tell you all ab….

  13. Jeremy Poynton

    I use “New Stasi”, not “NuLabour”. I quite like “ZaNuLabour PF”, as well. And I voted Labour for well over 30 years, until Iraq that is.

    So does that make me a right-winger? (Oddly, I have already had this conversation with Jackie Ashley of the Guardian. And yes, it does, so I gather).

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