Are the Tories finally seeing sense over Heathrow?

THERESA Villiers’ incredibly short-sighted vision as regards aviation policy is at last coming in from some serious criticism from within her own party, according to Iain Dale.

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10 responses to “Are the Tories finally seeing sense over Heathrow?

  1. madasafish

    So you are not a believer in Green issues Tom?

    You either are or not.
    Suppport more flights and by definition you cannot support Green issues…

    Nothing wrong in that.

    Now it’s time to vote against windmills and other very expensive forms of energy as well…

    And against Government VED policy..

    Of course if you ostensibly support Green issues…

  2. Johnny Norfolk

    Tom.

    Please, please, please.

    Put your own house in order before you start asking questions of the Tories.

    We never get any answers out of Brown.

    The time to look at Tory policies is when a General Election date is fixed. Till then explain yourselves before looking at others. You have so many questions that need answers so please dont insult us with more smoke screens. We have had 10 years of it and I for one have had enough.

  3. John

    Um, Tom’s spot on with this one.

    There simply isn’t anything other than an idealist impractical argument against the third runway.

    Labour supports it, the Tories at large have always supported it, it’s just the Tory mouthpiece on Transport (with David Cameron’s approval bizzarly?) that hasn’t – much to the annoyance and ridicule of the rest of her party.

    The way she’s banging on she should be a Lib Dem rather than a Tory.

  4. Blackacre

    I hope she fights them off – one of the few sensible Tory policies and another area where Labour have it wrong.

  5. Steve

    Well go on then , tell us how we solve the NOX problem?

    I would support a third runway, but there are just no technical solutions to this problem, either we:

    A. Breach the EU limits from now till BAA’s mystical pollution free plane appears, or
    B. Fake the pollution figures

    All I hear is silence from the government about this, they cannot criticise others when there is this gaping hole in policy.

  6. Since you ask, civil aviation is to be included in the European Emissions Trading Scheme, ensuring that the UK’s emissions as a whole are reduced relative to 2005 levels. Because civil aviation produces a relatively small proportion of our total emissions, we can afford to have a third runway (ensuring our economic security and growth) while at the same time meeting our CO2 emissions targets. The argument that encouraging growth and protecting the environment are incompatible aims is utterly misguided and one we cannot allow to gain traction.

  7. madasafish

    “Because civil aviation produces a relatively small proportion of our total emissions”

    “Between 1990 and 2005, emissions from aviation fuel use more than doubled.” DEFRA
    http://www.defra.gov.uk/news/2007/070131a.htm

    International Aviation and shipping account for approximately 5% of UK emissions..
    http://www.cfit.gov.uk/docs/2007/climatechange/02.htm

    So Tom thinks we can double 5% to 10% and still meet are CO2 emissions? Perhaps by cutting down on car usage? Or heating fewer houses..

    Incredible…

  8. Mad – I haven’t followed your links, but your text seems to suggest that in 2007 (following a doubling in aviation emissions between 1990 and 2005), only about 5% of emissions were from international aviation and shipping. So yes, meeting our climate change obligations with a third Heathrow runway is clearly achievable.

    And remember that the Tories’ imbecilic plan to replace all domestic flights with high-speed rail journeys (without once having suggested either a cost or a timescale for such a network) would have no effect at all on international aviation emissions.

  9. madasafish

    Tom
    athird runqay at Heathrow is likley to add 30% to international flifghts of at least 1% to our total emissions…

  10. Tom
    Why didn’t you answer the question about NOx emissions properly. You will know only too well that NOx emissions and CO2 emissions are completely different in terms of emissions trading. The EU Air Quality Directive is concerned with NOx emissions at local level, emissions trading does not solve this problem and to imply it will is totally wrong. Is the reason you can’t answer the question because you know that NOx is a real problem around Heathrow and that expansion will make it worse?

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